It sounds like songwriting came very naturally for them. Taylor explained, “He’s always just playing instruments and he doesn’t do it in a strategic, ‘I’m writing a song right now’ thing. He’s always done that.”¬†

However, the Miss Americana star admitted that if lockdown wouldn’t have happened, she doesn’t think they would have collaborated. “But I’m so glad that it did. We’re so proud of [‘exile’],” the artist¬†said. “All I have to do is dream up some lyrics and come up with some gut-wrenching, heart-shattering story to write with him.”

And as for their not-so-bubbly track “champagne problems,” Taylor hinted she’ll one day perform it live at a concert for fans. “I’m so excited to one day be in front of a crowd when they all sing, ‘She would have made such a lovely bride. What a shame she’s f–ked in the head,'” she said, adding, “I love a sad song.”

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